Problem

How to drop all Custom LineStyles in a file

Product: MicroStation
Version: V8 and V8i
Area: Custom Linestyles, Drop Linstyle

Solution

With the CSV remapper, go to the LineStyles Worksheet and enter
%unmapped into the LineStyle column. Enter %drop into the OutputLin
eStyle column corresponding to the file format to which you are saving.

For example, if saving to DWG, enter %drop into the DWG
OutputLineStyle column. This will drop all LineStyles (even if they are
supported in DWG).

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Problem

Converting Linestyles from Metric to English

Looking for a way to convert a custom line style library from metric to imperial units. Some linestyles can be converted with not much problems, such as a single line with dashes and gaps. The problem resides with the point. The point is imported with a fence through MicroStation. The size of the symbol is dependent on the original size. We need to globally scale all of the linestyles from metric to imperial. Is there a way to do this without recreating the linestyle resource file?

Solution

Using the custom linestyle resource manager copy the existing linestyles into a new resource file. You will need to change the dash and gap sizes accordingly. The next step would be to create a new point symbol using a file that is using Imperial units. Then remove the old point symbol with the new one. There is no utility that will automatically convert it from one measurement to the other. This is the best way of doing this with out doing it completely from Scratch.

Recommendations

A custom line can be made up of a series of user-defined dashes (stroke pattern), a series of symbols at defined intervals (point symbols), or a combination of the two.

A stroke pattern component is made up of solid “DASHES” and blank “GAPS”, all of which sizes (in master units) are defined by the user

A symbol is similar to a cell and again is defined and created by the user usually before the custom line style is created.

A simple line style could be a dashed line with an X symbol in the gap.

It is best to sketch a rough outline of what you want your line to look
like.

Eg:
 

This is made up of a length 5-unit line, a 2-unit gap and an X symbol.

We only need one solid dash here, as it will repeat itself after the
initial gap.

So we must define all of the above components.

To start we must call up the edit custom line style dialog from

ELEMENT>LINESTYLE>EDIT

Now that the Linestyle editor is open, lets create a new resource file to store our components, (this should be kept in the same directory as the other rsc files unless you point your configuration variable to find it)

From the fie menu on this dialog, choose NEW, to create a blank resource
file, and call it newline.rsc

There are two main sections to this dialog – “Styles” and “components”.
STYLES is the name you give your new line and is what you will see in the primary tools box when choosing your line.

COMPONENTS are the ‘bits’, which go to make up your new Linestyle.

Lets create some new components

the stroke pattern (dashes and gaps) and the points (symbols)

From the Edit menu on the Linestyle editor, choose

CREATE>STROKE PATTERN

This will insert a new blank stroke pattern, which we will give a name to by entering it in the field below the list of components. Call it mystroke,
then press enter.

Next we will define the gaps and dashes.

Click on the ADD button to add on two basic gaps. Then, to define their size and if they are gaps or dashes, click on the first one, then in the length field give it a size of five (then enter) then chose the stroke type option and chose “DASH”
this will be our solid line.

Now to define the gap, select it from the graphic and give it a length
value of 2 (and enter), this is now our gap of 2 units.

Now that the gaps and dashes of our line have been set, let’s create some symbols to put in the line. This is done using MicroStation keyins and commands, so we can move the Linestyle editor to one side for now.

As ours is a simple X, place an X of height and width 1 in the design file with justification center center.

When using text as the point symbol, it is recommended to use the Drop Element tool or DROP TEXT
key-in to drop the text to individual elements. This is protection against the possibility that the font used when creating the linestyle may not be present when the linestyle is used in the future.

Select it with the selection tool.

Keyin: CREATE SYMBOL MYSYMBOL

 (where mysymbol is the name of the new symbol),
then choose an origin for the symbol, you will see a message:
 
 
  
  

Next lets define where the symbol should go in our custom line.

From the linestyles editor, choose

EDIT>CREATE>POINT

This creates a new point component, which again you can rename to suit you (mypoint)

Now lets define where it goes, chose the BASE STROKE PATTERN button, as it needs to know which gaps and dashes to work with.

Select the one we created earlier (mystroke).

You will now see it appear in the dialog box.

We know the symbol goes in the gap so click on the GAP, and choose the SELECT button at the bottom of the dialog box. Now choose the symbol we created earlier (mysymbol) and click OK.

It will now be inserted into the gap. (Don’t worry if you do not see anything yet)

Now the last thing to do is to link these two components (symbol and lines) in to one and give it a name so that it can be selected from the primary tools.

Chose EDIT>CREATE>COMPOUND

and again give this compound component a name (my new line)

A compound component can be made up of many stroke and symbol components (in our case – mypoint and mystroke)

Then click on the insert button and, one at a time, select and insert mypoint and mystroke

Now this is done let’s give our new Linestyle a name and link it to the compound component. (The name is what you will see in the primary tool bar)

Choose EDIT>CREATE>NAME

and as before give your new line a name and press return. Choose it in the Styles list, then choose the Compound>mynewline

from the components list, then choose EDIT>LINK.

Last thing to do is to

FILE>SAVE

Now your new line should appear in the list of custom linestyles ready to be placed.

See Also

http://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/w/microstation__wiki/4188.aspx

Problem

How to have a custom linestyle that always ends with a dash.
In some cases user can be left with a gap at the end when placing a custom linestyle.
While MicroStation will still snap to the end of the gap, and measure the line correctly, sometimes this can be confusing for users.

Product: MicroStation V8 2004 Edition
Version: 08.05.02.27
Area: Custom Linestyles

Solution

Change the shift option in the linestyle editor from distance to centered.

See Also

• Adding client linestyles to the Element Linestyles Custom list
• Converting Linestyles from Metric to English
• Creating a Custom Linestyle
• Custom line is all in red but element information shows different
• Custom linestyle that alway ends with a dash
• Custom Linestyle, Display, width
• Custom Linestyles are appearing as a solid
• Drop a Custom Line style
• How to a check a corrupt .rsc file
• How to change linestyle scale in reference file
• How to change the direction of a linestyle when it is placed
• How to copy an existing linestyle
• How to copy Linestyles from a RSC file to a new RSC file or to an existing one
• How to create a Custom LineStyle to react similar to AutoCad
• How to drop all Custom LineStyles in a file

Is CONNECT out and fully functional?.......does it work with Descartes, ProjectWise, OpenPlant, etc.?

please I need to find a free software for opening a dgn files. I already download this from bentely web site: vw081109829en, but seem that I can't install It on my laptop (windows 8).  Thanks

How to restore MicroStation to its factory defaults

Background

In some rare occasions, such as after a workstation power failure or an application crash, MicroStation can refuse to start up correctly, either crashing or showing an error on file open (e.g. "unable to load/create dialog item of type 'iconcmd', id = xx"). In these cases resetting MicroStation to its factory defaults can resolve the issue.

Steps to Accomplish

Option 1: From Windows' Run or Search command

1. From Windows "Start" Button, select "Run" - in Windows XP - or type "Run" and hit Enter in Windows 7 or Vista search
2. Browse to ustation.exe (Default location for x32 bit OS: C:\Program Files\Bentley\MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries)\MicroStationand\ustation.exe and for x64 bit OS: C:\Program Files (x86)\Bentley\MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries)\MicroStation\ustation.exe)
3. Place a space after the ...\ustation.exe" and type -restoredefaults
   
   NOTE: the ustation.exe full path is in quotes. Place a space AFTER the quotes, then type -restoredefaults. A MicroStation command window will open displaying the details of the operation.
4. Press any key to Exit.

Option 2: As a command line switch within the application shortcut

1. Right-click on the MicroStation shortcut icon and choose Properties
2. Go to the Shortcut tab
3. Place -restoredefaults after the current line in the Target field (...\ustation.exe" -restoredefaults) (note the space between the end quotes and -restoredefaults).
4. Press Apply and Ok
5. Run MicroStation from this shortcut
6. A MicroStation command window will open displaying the details of the operation.
7. Press any key to Exit.
8. Go back in to MicroStation shortcut properties, and remove the space and -restoredefaults from the end of the file path.

 
Option 3: From the MS-DOS Prompt Command Line

1. From Explorer, browse to MicroStation folder (Default location: C:\Program Files\Bentley\MicroStation)
2. Right-Click the folder "MicroStation" then Select the option "Open MS-DOS Prompt"
3. The Command Window will open
4. Type in: ustation -restoredefaults
   A MicroStation command window will open displaying the details of the operation.
5. Press any key to Exit.
6. Type "exit" to exit the command prompt.
   
   Note: To run the Restore command silently with no User intervention, replace " -restoredefaults"
   with " -restoredefaultsquiet" (Minus the quotes).

Hi All,

I need to create a composite surface that represents the LOWEST of a bunch of surfaces which are stacked on top of each other at different elevations. Kind of like a 3D boolean addition but I only want single surface representing the lowest plane, or an upside down drape mesh. When it's generated properly looking at it from above it should appear as a concave hull. A bit hard to explain but if I were writing an algorithm to do it, this is what it would look like..

Declare a bounding area "area1"

For each "x","y" point within area1

for each surface stacked at this point

if "z" is LOWEST 

set area1 (x,y,z)

endif

endfor

endfor

Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to achieve this?

How to:

Make linestyle pattern continue through vertex/points

Steps to Accomplish:

1. Select the element

2. Element Information > Line Style Parameters > Corner Mode

3. Select Corner Mode = Run Through Corners in the drop down menu

Problem

When copying a large number of elements to the clipboard, the entirety of the contents do not display in the preview. When pasting, the elements on the cursor reflect the preview. However, all elements are pasted.

Solution

For all dynamics including clipboard preview, uses the function "mdlDynamic_getMaxNumElements" to limit the amount of drawing that occurs. The internal limit of 5,000 elements may be overridden by the MicroStation configuration variable "MS_MAXDYNAMICELMS".

See Also

http://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/w/microstation__wiki/the-power-of-ole-in-microstation-v8.aspx

Problem

When user opens MSTN (file contains links) and excel, the links are not being automatically updated.

Solution

Set MS_OLECNTR_CONFIG_ACTIVATEALLOBJECTONDGNLOAD=1

See Also

Access

General

Informix

ODBC

Oracle

RIS

Sybase

VSQL

Xbase

Been away from MS for a while - now I get this - any ideas?

It's a MS solids model although made in AECOsim, currently 08.11.09.829. I downloaded the latest (863 or something?), got this, uninstalled, went back to 829 but still same. W7 64. People have said this can be an Nvidia driver problem - I updated to the latest, 341.95 for my Quadro FX580, but still same.

Which operating systems are supported?
What are the minimum system requirements?
Can I install this version to coexist with another version?
Do I need to uninstall the previous version of MicroStation?
Are the Prerequisites available as a separate download?
What versions of Autodesk ® RealDWG™ are supported?
Which object enablers are supported?
What is the activation period for MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4)?
What is New & Changed in this version?
Is there a list of Resolved Issues or Defects available for this version?
What is the CONNECTION Client that is installed with this version?
Why am I receiving a prompt to “Assign Project” when I start MicroStation V8i SELECTseries 4?
Do I need to assign a project?
Can I assign a CONNECTED Project to my PCF when I create my Project?
How do I know if my local Project is associated to a CONNECTED Project?
How do I un-associate my local Project with an associated CONNECTED Project?
When I go to my PCF file and see “_USTN_CONNECT_PROJECTGUID = 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000” at the bottom of the file, what does this mean?
If I associated my PCF to the incorrect CONNECTED Project, how do I change this?






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Which operating systems are supported?

• Windows 10
• Windows 10 (64-bit)
• Windows 8.1
• Windows 8.1 (64-bit)
• Windows 8
• Windows 8 (64-bit)
• Windows 7
• Windows 7 (64-bit)
• Windows Server 2008 SP2, Standard and Enterprise editions (64-bit)
• Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, Standard and Enterprise editions (64-bit)
• Windows Server 2012 (64 bit)
• Windows Server 2012 R2 (64 bit)

Bentley does not support its software running on Microsoft operating systems versions that Microsoft has "retired". For more information on Microsoft's application retirement policy, click here. For similar information on Bentley products, refer to the Bentley Product Support article.

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What are the minimum system requirements?

Processor: Intel® or AMD® processor 2.0 GHz or greater. We do not support MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4) on a CPU that does not support SSE2.

Memory: 512 MB minimum, 2 GB recommended. More memory almost always improves performance, particularly when working with larger models.

Hard Disk: 8 GB free disk space (which includes the 6.5 GB install footprint for a complete installation)

Video: See the graphics card manufacturer for latest information on DirectX drivers. 256 MB of video RAM or higher is recommended. If insufficient video RAM or no graphics card supported by DirectX can be found, MicroStation attempts to use software emulation. For optimal performance, graphics display color depth should be set to 24-bit or higher. When using a color depth setting of 16-bit, some inconsistencies will be noted. For more information on recommended workstation profiles for MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4), see MicroStation V8i System Requirements and Hardware Recommendations. 

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Can I install this version to coexist with another version?

MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4) can be installed on the same system as MicroStation V8i (08.11.05.17) and MicroStation V8 XM Edition but will upgrade an existing installation of any of the MicroStation V8i SELECT series 1, 2 or 3 versions.

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Do I need to uninstall the previous version of MicroStation?

If you are using MicroStation V8i SS2 (08.11.09.292) or later.  New versions will prompt you that it will "update" the currently installed version.  However, If you are using an older version of MicroStation V8i, you will be prompted to uninstall.  If you using an older version (Example: MicroStation V8 XM Edition), MicroStation V8i will not attempt to "update" it and can safely co-exist on the same machine (as long as you keep the install location separate).  

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Are the Prerequisites available as a separate download?

The Prerequisites for Bentley Desktop Applications v08.11.09 are automatically downloaded and installed to your workstation while you install MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4). The Prerequisites for Bentley Desktop Applications needs to be installed on your system once, and only needs to be reinstalled if you are installing a later version of MicroStation that requires an updated prerequisite pack. The Prerequisites for Bentley Desktop Applications is also available from the Web downloads/MySELECT CD area of SELECTservices Online. The contents of the Prerequisites for Bentley Desktop Applications include:

Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1
Microsoft XML Parser (MSXML) 6 SP 1 (32-bit and 64-bit)
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications core
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications localized
DHTML Editing Control for Applications

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What versions of Autodesk ® RealDWG™ are supported?

MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4) ships with Autodesk ® RealDWG™ 2016 which supports DWG versions 14 – 2016.

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Which object enablers are supported?

Any object enablers that are compatible with Autodesk ® RealDWG™ 2016

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What is the activation period for MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4)?

MicroStation will run without a license for 7 days as an evaluation period.  After being licensed, it must communicate with a license server at least every seven days to continue operation.  In fact, all Bentley desktop products are now standardized on a seven day activation period.  This ensures better, more accurate reporting and helps to make sure a company does not inadvertently exceed their license count.

For those customers running disconnected or mobile solutions the best option for uninterrupted operation is to check out a license.  A checked out license can run up to a year without connecting to a license server.

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What is New & Changed in this version?

The following outline identifies new features and enhancements in this release of MicroStation V8i(SELECTseries 4).

For more information about what's new, see "What's New?" > "New in MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4)" in the online help. To open the help document in MicroStation select Help > Contents.

• CONNECTED Users and CONNECTED Projects
  • Assign Projects to CONNECTED Projects
  • Publishing i-models and Printing PDF
• Data Interoperability
  • Autodesk RealDWG 2016 Support
  • Acute3D File Support
  • IFC Version 4 Support (Technology Preview)

• Dynamic Views
  • Create Drawing Dialog Enhancements
  • Plan Callout Enhancements
• Hatching and Patterning
  • Annotation Scale Setting
• i-models
  • Publish i-model(s) Dialog Enhancements
• Printing
  • Support for Sharing Printed PDFs on the Cloud
• Raster Manager
  • Bing Maps Support
• RSS Reader 

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Is there a list of Resolved Issues or Defects available for this version?

The ReadMe document provided with the installed software has a list of the Resolved Issues for this version. The following Wiki should assist in located where to find this Help File and the location of this information.

Microstation V8i (SELECTseries 4) Resolved Issues and Bug Fixes

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What is the CONNECTION Client that is installed with this version?

By logging into the Bentley CONNECTION Client using your personal login it provides access to various advantages.

• A complimentary Bentley Profile 
• Access to personal LEARN material, paths and history
• Space on the cloud to share files from desktop to mobile and other users
• Accurate tracking of time spent against products and projects
• Timely product related news, automatic product updates and notifications

Further details are provided within the Cloud Services Overview.

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Why am I receiving a prompt to “Assign Project” when I start MicroStation V8i SELECTseries 4?

The “Assign Project” dialog appears when you signed into the CONNECT Client and you select a “Project” from your File Open dialog that is not associated to a “CONNECTED Project”.  When you register a project on the CONNECT Project Portal, you can then associate your local Project or Project Configuration File (PCF) to the CONNECTED Project.

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Do I need to assign a project?

It is not required to assign a project but the full benefits of a CONNECTED Project would not be available to you.
Find more information at the CONNECT Project Portal.

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Can I assign a CONNECTED Project to my PCF when I create my Project?

When you create your project there is an option to select the icon to view the CONNECTED Projects that are available to you to select.

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How do I know if my local Project is associated to a CONNECTED Project?

If you go into a file in MicroStation SELECTseries 4, then navigate to the Workspace drop down and select “About Workspace”, you will see the name of the CONNECTED Project if it is associated.  Alternatively, if you open the Project Configuration File (*.PCF) in a text editor such as notepad, you will see a Project GUID at the bottom of the PCF file.  

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How do I un-associate my local Project with an associated CONNECTED Project?

Navigate to your PCF file and then edit the file in a text editor application such as NotePad.  Remove the line “_USTN_CONNECT_PROJECTGUID = *****” and then save the pcf file.

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When I go to my PCF file and see “_USTN_CONNECT_PROJECTGUID = 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000” at the bottom of the file, what does this mean?

This line in your PCF means that your local project is not associated to a CONNECTED Project.

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If I associated my PCF to the incorrect CONNECTED Project, how do I change this?

In order to update or change a CONNECTED Project in your local Project, you will need to edit the PCF file in a text editor.  Remove the line “_USTN_CONNECT_PROJECTGUID = ****” and Save your PCF file.  The next time you open MicroStation and select the project and go into a file, you will then be prompted to “Assign Project”.

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See Also

MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4) ReadMe

Sharing Printed PDFs on the Cloud

Bing Maps discussion

Product TechNotes and FAQs

External Links

Bentley LEARN Server

Other language sources

German: MicroStation V8i SELECT Serie 4 - Häufig gestellte Fragen

Comments or Corrections?

Bentley's Product Support Group requests that you please confine any comments you have on this Wiki entry to this "Comments or Corrections?" section.

For questions or comments unrelated to this article please post a new discussion in this community's forum with a link to this Wiki.

Offsetting elements at a equal distance using along a curved element can be quite challenging with copy parallel tool.

Background

For the most part using the move/copy parallel tools does just the tool implies, it will copy elements at designated value paralled to the orignal. The challenging part is when the element is not a straight line.

Steps to Accomplish

Go to the Home>Manipulate ribbon. Click on the construct array tool

1. Select the element to be arrayed

2. Identify the path element by selecting the endpoint of the element i.e. arc,b-spline curve, or curve

3. Turn on Rotate Items option, If on, the element(s) are rotated to maintain their relative orientation to the path element. 

4. Move mouse along element path to define direction in which the array should be constructed. Number of copies will automatically increment as the cursor is moved along the path
5. Click left button on mouse to accept last point to begin the array

(Along Path array type) Sets the way that the array is created.

• Number — Defines the number of items in the array, via the Copies setting.
• Distance — Defines the distance between items in the array, via the Distance setting.
• Both — Defines the number of items in the array and the distance between each item, via the Copies and Distance settings respectively

See the following video for difference between move/copy parallel and construct array along path:

(Please visit the site to view this video)

See Also

Background

There have been a few subtle changes made to crosshatch area, hatch area and pattern area tools

To get to these tools go to the Annotate>Pattern Ribbon

Enhancements

Annotation scales has been integrated with hatching ad patterning on an area using the Annotation Scale lock icon that has been added to the tool settings for these respected tools. i.e. Pattern Area

See Video(Please visit the site to view this video)

Annotation scale can also be applied to hatching and patterning of elements graphics by setting the "Area Pattern Is Association" to "True"

To do this:

1. Create new element template
2. Add>Pattern/Hatch Settings
3. Change Area Pattern Is Annotation value to True(this should be the default value)

Drop Pattern

The old Associative Patten checkbox in the crosshatch, hatch and pattern area tools has been replace with the "Drop Pattern" check box.

The behavior of the Drop Pattern checkbox is exactly the opposite of the old Associative Pattern check box. If on, hatching/patterns are not associated with the patterned element (this is only available when Drop Pattern option is turned off). If on, this setting allows for creating an independent "Associative Region" element that is associated  to the patterned element. Depending on the status of the Drop Pattern and Associative Boundary settings, you get the follow outputs:

Drop Pattern/Associative Boundary On - creates static pattern class element that part of the same graphic group.

Drop Pattern/Associative Boundary Off - creates an independent associative region element that can have its own level and reacts to changes to the original boundary elements.

Associative pattern parameters are now displayed in the Properties dialog.

Change Pattern

In versions prior to MicroStation CONNECT you had the ability to match the attributes of a placed pattern, you could redefine the intersection point of the patterning, redefine the intersection point of the patterning and re-flood area that has been patterned. A new pattern parameter has been added to this tool. The ability to apply and remove annotation scale from existing pattern.

See Video

(Please visit the site to view this video)

We use PCF files to load client workspaces. Some clients use autoload VBA files. So when launching Power InRoads, the last UCF file used loads the last PCF file used. If a user changes projects before opening a file, some of the initial client's VBA files remain loaded and to clear them completely, it is really necessary to exit  after opening a file with the new project and restart with the new project being the default project.

So I began experimenting with -wp command line switches to see if a front end that selects the project before launching Power InRoads could force the desired project to load. Some of our PCF files have spaces in their filenames. So I have tried "-wpfile name with spaces" and -wp"file name with spaces" and am getting inconsistent results.

Sometimes the desired project comes up in the MicroStation manager and other times NoProject comes up.

Is there anything different that I need to do to get this to work 100% of the time.

BTW, I am using AutoHotKey as my front end. I have an icon on my taskbar that opens a popup menu with the choices for various projects. Here is the AHK code:

Menu, Launch_Menu, Add, Power InRoads V8i Ss2		, Launch_Menu_Handler
Menu, Launch_Menu, Add, Power InRoads V8i Ss2 - MD SHA	, Launch_Menu_Handler
Menu, Launch_Menu, Add, Power InRoads V8i Ss2 - AEC R6	, Launch_Menu_Handler

Menu, Launch_Menu, Show

Launch_Menu_Handler:
{
    If ( A_ThisMenuItem = "Power InRoads V8i Ss2" )
    {
        Run, "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bentley\PowerInRoads V8i\PowerInRoads\PowerInRoads.exe"
    }
    Else If ( A_ThisMenuItem = "Power InRoads V8i Ss2 - MD SHA" )
    {

        ; This one correctly loads the PCF file
        Run, "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bentley\PowerInRoads V8i\PowerInRoads\PowerInRoads.exe" "-wpMD SHA V8+ 2013 Design"
    }
    Else If ( A_ThisMenuItem = "Power InRoads V8i Ss2 - AEC R6" )
    {

        ; This one ends up with No Project as the project, but it also resulted with No Project when it used "-wpAEC Release 6-Civil Design"
        Run, "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bentley\PowerInRoads V8i\PowerInRoads\PowerInRoads.exe" -wp"AEC Release 6-Civil Design"
    }
    ExitApp
}
Return

Im trying to place cells in isometric or any other view other than top view.

If I keyin "place cell absolute tmatrx" the cell will be orientated correctly but will not allow me to rotate the cell.

One would think that the cell would automatically align to the view and then using top, side or front be able to rotate the cell or place by angle.

workflow

1. choose cell

2. keyin "place cell absolute tmatrx" 

3. rotate the cell to the desired angle

Why isn't the tmatix an option in the place cell menu?

v8i 2&3